Roizen-Diamant
Family
Gallery of Old Photos |
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These old photos
came from an unorganized collection of items in a
cardboard box I "inherited" after my father, Joseph Roizen, passed away
in 1989. In making some effort to identify the people in the
pictures it occurred to me that seeing groups of photos presented
together would allow for a stronger analysis. Offered as groups,
for example, it might be possible to trace a single individuals through
a series of photos over time, thus also improving the prospects for
identifying them and others. With that in mind, the
following photos are presented with my brief commentaries. Lisa
Baumann, Helio Diamant, and Molly Tiss have identified people in
pictures and offered valuable comments. Other family
members are welcome to contribute comments to this page as well -- just
email me at ronroizen@frontier.com.
Thanks! Ron Roizen, June, 2012 April 18, 2017: Miriam Diamant Brenner has sent some comments on four pictures -- 11f, 12f, 26f, & 27f -- which I've posted at each. Thanks Miriam! _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ |
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1f. |
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This
photo is mounted on a solid cardboard backing with some impressive
iconography
and a blue official-looking stamp on the back (see frame below
left). It appears to be a family studio shot but maybe it was
also some sort of official identification picture as well. Note
the place name in the lower right corner of the picture. It
offers yet another spelling of the Roizen-Diamant family's hometown --
this time, "Mohileff, Podolski." The back side clearly shows
"1908" inscribed vertically, presumably the date the picture was
taken. My aunt Molly sent an email (6/24/12) identifying the girl
on the right (I believe) as Jenny. Molly wrote of her: "She
was a school teacher and had no children but she was married and was
close to her pupils so some of the kids may be students." This
comports with my transcripiton of the account Aaron gave my
father. Molly's comment also implies that any photo that includes
Jenny was taken in the Old World. Molly "thinks" the boy is
"Yasha." The littlest girl is, I suspect, Reva -- whom we'll see
in several photos below. |
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What
can be said about the back side of this photo? The iconography
and Cyrillic alphabet certainly make it look Russian. It's
interesting incidentally that the back side is in Cyrillic and the
front side lettering is not. The blue stamp looks awfully
imperfect, as such stamps go -- and if it is a stamp. The upper
portion of the card seems to be commemorating perhaps some medals that
somebody or some instution won for something. Maybe a reader of
Cyrillic script will chance upon this page and enlighten us as to
what's going on. |
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This
photo has
light pencil Cyrillic writing on the back and I can see the year
"1936" there. I believe Molly's email says the woman on the
left is Jenny. The boys remain unidentified -- perhaps a couple
of her students. |
3f. | ![]() |
Jenny
is on the right. But who are the others pictured? The
back has more inscrutable Cyrillic writing. A "1936" can be made
out on this back side too. |
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Now
a seeming date on the back of this shot says "1927." The woman
is Jenny, although she arguably looks
rather older than the roughly 27 years-old this picture would make
her. The pretty little girl with the white bow in her hair
is unidentified. |
4b-i. | ![]() |
There
were two prints of 4f in the box, each with its own text on the back
side. The inscribed date appears to be September 12, 1927. |
4b-ii. | ![]() |
This
time, October 15, 1927. The difference suggests these were dates
when the picture was inscribed or sent, and not necessarily when taken. |
5f. | ![]() |
Berl,
baby Joseph, and Brana's Russian passport photo, taken in 1924.
This photo is a pivotal one in that the identities of those pictured
are clearly established. Molly adds regarding Berl: "...there was another brother of Berl in Philadelphia, name of Joseph, with a wife named Edith. He had children, but I don’t know specifics. He was the one who started the use of the Rosen spelling for the last name." |
6f. | ![]() |
Molly
identifies Brana on the right and Reva with the braid. Molly did
not venture to identify the two standing girls. |
7f. | ![]() |
Molly
identifies Brana in the middle (looking a little like Mia Farrow in
this shot, I might add) and Reva with the braid on the left.
Molly does not identify the girl on the right. If she were the
third sister, of course, then she'd be Jenny, but she bears no
resemblance to Jenny as identified above. |
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Thanks
to a web-based key for the Cyrillic
alphabet (although, truth be told, I guessed it beforehand), it can be
established that the placename in the lower right is "Odessa" -- or,
more transliterally, "Odyssa." The baby is a cute little guy,
looks quite
happy. Mother, a little more severe though. Molly writes, "I...wonder if the woman with the baby in her lap could be my grandmother Sara with her first baby, Yasha. The story went that she delivered 10 babies but only 5 survived infancy to adulthood." |
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I've
oriented the back of the card sideways so that the hand written script
might be more easily decoded. Once again, the back of the card
seems to celebrate a string of medals or awards -- but for what?
Perhaps these are symbols of royalty or the royal family, back in
pre-revolutionary czarist Russia. The big letters, written
diagonally across the middle of the back, transliterate to "K.
Mulbmang" -- or in other words an exchange of one meanless set of
letters for another! Sigh. |
9f. | ![]() |
Lisa
Braumann has (perceptively) pointed out that this man may be
the shorter boy in 14f. The back side of this photo card (see
right side, below on 9b) seems to
offer a date including a year, "927" -- which I read as plausibly
1927. I would put 14f's date at about 1915, in which case the boy
in 14f, perhaps about 8-years-old, would now be about 20 in the 9f
portrait. He could be about 20. Incidentally, his hands
look like the hands of a man who works with them for a living.
Thank you, Lisa, for this nice cross-link! Below (9b): The inscription on this card is dark and legible. The printed or stamped text at the top is interesting. "Union Universal De Correos" seems Spanish to me, which would make the picture hard to place in Canada. Is this therefore possibly a South American relative with some similarity of face with Berl? Once again, we need a Cyrillic reader to make sense of the text. |
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10f. | ![]() |
In
its physical form, this picture is quite different from the others so
far. It's very small and it has serrated edges all around.
The paper edges, moreover, are whiter rather than the cepia color of
the earlier shots. Molly suggests this is the South American
Luisa "and her kids." Molly recalls they had three
children. This leaves an extra unidentified person in the
photo. |
10b. | ![]() |
Molly
says this is Yiddish or Hebrew and she will try to translate. |
11f. | ![]() |
Miriam
Diamant Brenner writes (4/18/2017): I am quite positive that is not Aaron Diamant (my grandfather). Have seen pictures of him young and don't think that man matches his appearance. Molly wrote, "my guess Aaron in Brazil." I'm struck by how well attired he is -- with his hat, his probably leather case and gloves, and his substantial looking overcoat. The image strikes me as 1930-ish. The case may symbolize education or that he's currently in some form of higher education. This picture, along with most of the others, suggests our family was not impoverished or could put up a good front. |
11b. | ![]() |
The
back side of this shot is inscribed with lovely bold writing. I'm
not sure in this case whether this is Cyrillic or our alphabet.
The first word in the third line, "amerzga" looks like "america" -- but
who can say? |
12f. | ![]() |
I have to check at my parents home. I think my father has a picture of that woman as one of my grandfather's sisters, but I am not sure. Will check and get back to you. Ron: There is a family resemblace between this woman and the woman with toddler in 8f. But they don't appear to be the same person to me. For one thing, I would date 12f to about 1930 and 8f looks like a picture out of 1910, perhaps. If they were the same woman, therefore, the woman in 8f would be rather older than the woman in 12f by 1930. But both dates and both faces, for that matter, are not easily identified. There is a solemn seriousness in this woman's gaze, and, if I'm not mistaken, no little strength of character. |
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It's
tempting to speculate that the bottom word in this inscription is a
name, Rebecca maybe. But my fledgling Cyrillic transliteration
skills don't sustain that conclusion at the moment. |
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Molly
identifies these two as Esther (nee Roizen) and Abe Shaffer. Back
side of this photo is blank. Esther is presumably one of Berl's
two sisters. I'd date the shot, once
again, to about 1930. The man still bears a resemblance to my
father, even though he's not the related one in the picture.
Molly writes that they had no children and Esther was a diabetic. |
14f. | ![]() |
Reva
to the right and the two boys unidentified. Once
again, and unfortunately, nothing on the back of this photo. If
we assume that the uniforms are not merely mimicking costumes for
purposes of this picture, then probably these
boys attended military school. |
15f. | ![]() |
Molly
identifies as Reva. The nice thing about
this picture, aside from the pleasing image, is that the back of the
card offers at least two interesting clues. First, it says
"1918" -- presumably the date of the shot. Second, the card has a
girlish, quite possibly romantic doodle on the
back, featuring the outline of a heart and small flowers gracing that
outline. This suggests the photo may have been employed as a
romantic message or keepsake. This is a nice possibility. |
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(Discussed in 15a.) |
16f. | ![]() |
Different
girl but same lace collar and bowtie. This one, too, offers an
interesting back side, with very readable Cyrillic writing. We
get a very clear date, "1916," and some sort of text that it is hoped
Heidi's Russian friend can translate for us. |
16b. | ![]() |
(Discussed
above.) |
17f. | ![]() |
Lisa Braumann has identified him as
Jose' Diamant, patriarch of the Daimant family. Jose' fathered
Joseph (or "Yasha"), whose son was Julius, whose daughter was
Lisa. If 25 years is assigned to a generation's span, then Jose'
might have been born around 1875. I'd guess his age in this photo
to be 50-60, perhaps older but probably not younger. If he were,
say, 55 in the photo, then the portrait dates to about 1930.
Molly refers to him as "Joseph Diamant," both Joe's and Julius's
namesakes, she adds. He died just before Joe was born, according
to Molly. Recall that according to Aaron's account, he would have
died of starvation. |
18f. | ![]() |
This
is a lovely portrait, and we get the bonus of some very legible writing
on the back (18b). The date is apparently 1916 (yes?).
Goodness,
they had a lot of ways to write the date back then. My guess is
that this one is June 20, 1916, according to how I'm reading how it was
written. Is this one of the girls in 6f? I rather think
so. Comment? |
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19f. | ![]() |
Molly identifies this shot as Aaron Diamant. Helio Diamant thinks so also. He writes, "by the eyes, I would say it is really Aaron, even if I cannot recognize him at this age." |
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20f. | ![]() |
Now
we switch continents, to South America. The inscription on the
back side of this photo (left, 20f) gives us a clear date, October,
1944, and two
names, Luisa and Janette. We also get a location: "Rio de
Janeiro, Brasil." Luisa is sitting, Janette standing behind
her. Luisa is Aaron's wife and Janette is their first daughter,
according to Helio Diamant. The two also appeared in this family
group shot (below) taken in Brazil in
1977. ![]() |
Family
photo, above right: Helio Diamant has kindly provided a key to
this photo. He writes: "Luiza
(Aaron's wife) is the second from the right, and Jannete is the third
from the
right....Rightmost is Bella (Solomon)
Welczer, Luiza's sister. After Jannette you can find, on the top, from
right to
left: Luis Fishenfeld (Janette's husband), Suzette (Fishenfeld
Kishinievsky, Jannete's first daughter), Aaron Diamant, Joe Roizen's
wife [Donna Foster Roizen], Joe Roizen,
Adolfo Kishinievsky (Suzette's husband), Jose Diamant (my father) and
Freidy
Diamant (my mother). In the bottom, from right to left: Rejane
(Fishenfeld)
Spitz (Jannete's second daughter), Andre Kishinievsky (Suzette's son),
Andre
Spitz (Rejane's husband) and Miriam Diamant (my sister)." Thanks,
Helio! |
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21f. | ![]() |
Molly
identifies these folks as family friends in Montreal -- there names,
"Rubalsky," later changed to "Rubell." She recalls the names of
the individuals in the shot. |
22f. | ![]() |
Jenny
with unknown boy, perhaps student. |
23f. | ![]() |
Reva
(left) and Jennie (right), according to Mollie. |
24f. | ![]() |
Guesses,
anyone? This is another of those smaller format snapshots with a
serrated edge. South American venue? Kids being taken to a
sort of petting-zoo-equivalent experience? |
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Molly
identifies the script as Yiddish and will try to translate. |
25f. | ![]() |
Molly
writes: "Hoffman family in Long Island grandkids of Clara Hoffman
(nee Roizen); she was also diabetic." Maggie, who is often very
good at this sort
of thing, estimates the shot was taken in 1948-1950. The boy's
haircut suggests to me the slight possibility it might be later -- say,
any year through the 1950s. Cute kids. Molly identifies the children as Sylvia and Martin. She adds: "They are the children of May, one of the Hoffman girls. I don't recall her married name but her husband's name was Harry. By the way, Clara (Kroina) Hoffman, nee Roizen, and her husband Isaac had either 5 or 6 children. Sonia was the eldest and married to Al Tucker. They had 2 children, Muriel and Bobby. Both Muriel and I were named after Berl's mother, Mutel. Then there was Ira Hoffman, also married but I don't recall her name. Couple of kids, one named Paul. Then there was May, married to Harry, Rose married to Joe, and Robert, who was deaf and he was married to a deaf woman. Isaac ran a |
butcher
shop and his family helped him. My
mind keeps coming up
with the
name Jack, so I don't know if this was the possible 6th child.
Muriel and
I communicated for a while during our 20's and 30's but then we lost
touch.
She married a guy named Jay Hertan and they had 3 or 4 kids. They
all
lived in Long Island when I knew them in a town called Maspeth.
They
probably all belong on the family tree." It may be recalled that my transcription of Aaron's narrative offered nothing about Berl's sister, Kroina (or Clara). Hence, Molly's contribution, above, tells us that a pretty substantial family tree segment derives from Kroina and her husband, Isaac -- with their "five or six children" and subsequent grandchildren. We're going to need a bigger boat! |
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Miriam
Diamant Brenner writes (4/18/2017): I think that it is my grandmother Luiza Diamant (Aaron's wife). Have seen similar pictures of her before. Check the resemblance with picture 33f. Ron: Both Maggie and I would guesstimate this one as shot in about 1930. The back side (below) looks readable and promising. |
26b. |
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Miriam
Diamant Brenner writes (4/18/2017): Appears
to me that those are: Janette and
Bella, both Aaron and Luiza's daughters (my father's sisters – my
aunts). Ron: I've manipulated this shot (27f, above) in order to bring out the script the girl on the right appears to be practicing -- or perhaps the story she is writing. Note as well the heavy duty blotter and inkwell in the foreground. I like this shot a lot. Molly identifies these girls as Janette and Charlotte in Brazil. |
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28f. | ![]() |
Molly
writes this is Berl in T.B. hospital in
Prefontaine, Que. Molly will try to translate the Yiddish
text. ![]() |
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29f. | ![]() |
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This
photo (above, 29f) was also in the box. A Canadian Jewish
historical web page I looked at said the hotel was owned by the
Greenbergs. Maybe Dad had some connection to this hotel while his
family lived in Ste. Agathe. |
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30f. | ![]() |
I've
placed 30f and 31f next to each other for an obvious reason. Here
we have quite similar shots of Jenny, the teacher, and presumably her
husband separated by more than a few years. But how many
years? 31f's back side (see below) offers the date, November 24,
1958. The box held two prints of 30f, each with text on their
back sides (see below), but neither offering dates. My estimate
is that 30f was taken about 25 years earlier than 31f, or 1933.
Incidentally, the warm, fur-collared coats in 30f also suggest
wintertime shots. |
31f. | ![]() |
It's notable, perhaps, how unchanging Jenny's expression was from photo to photo and over a great many years. Also notable, perhaps, is that we have shots of her separated by 50 years -- 1f, taken in 1908, and 31f, in 1958. This shot would have been taken months before my father's visit to Moscow as part of the Ampex contingent at an American exhibition or trade fair. The transcript of Aaron's conversation with my father says Joe tried to visit Jenny but the Soviets would not allow it. "They said," Joe reported, "she lived too near the border." Incidentally, the change in hats is also notable in 30f and 31f, no? |
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Molly translates: "To my mother and sister a small rememberance. (signed) Jennie and Abraham Burdman." This, then, gives us Jennie's husband's name and her married name. |
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Molly
translates: "To
my dear sister and brother and nephew Joseph (in Yiddish
Yosel) as
a rememberence from Jennie
& Abraham Burdman 11/24/1958." (I should point out that I've darkened the color of the background to bring out the text as sharply as possible.) |
32f. | ![]() |
This is a new group? Unfortunately nothing on the back side of this shot. Molly writes that the young woman in the dotted dress is Reva. This, of course, supplies some connection to our family even though the other three subjects remain unidentified. |
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Helio Diamant writes: "DEFINITELY Luiza and Aaron." Molly agrees. This is a tiny little photo, blown up considerably for a better look. The touching of the heads suggests a romantic connection of course. The young woman's extreme cupid's bow lips and the shape of the young man's collar suggest a shot taken in the 1920s, perhaps the late '20s. She, especially, looks very young. Yet, Helio's confirmation of the identities creates a problem for my suggested dating of the picture. The Geni family tree says Luiza was born in 1915, Aaron in 1906. If she were, say, 18-years-old in this picture, then it would have been taken about 1933 -- or a little later than I suggested. |
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